"And although I would love to discuss meta with you, you need to leave personal grievances out of it, because they sour your work." (x)
I DO NOT WANT TO DISCUSS META WITH YOU. HENCE MY SOURNESS.
"You could have posted an interesting rebuttal to open debate, but you didn’t, you posted a personal attack, and that completely sideswiped any argument you might have had."
Translation: I don’t like the tone of your argument, therefore the argument itself is wrong. Tone policing 101. Also, I don’t want to debate with you. “Debating” with you is mind-blowingly tedious because you refuse to grasp the most basic of sociological concepts, you cherry pick your information to an appalling degree, and you keep rolling out the same goddamn logical fallacies.
"If you take everything you are told on the show as gospel truth you’re missing a lot of what happens because as I said, they assume, they flat out lie and are wrong just as often."
oh my fucking god, do I take the dialogue from the show as the gospel truth? fucking no, y’all saw me question the veracity of the information from Kate Argent and reason my way through it.
The characters do lie an make assumptions that turn out to be wrong, but when they do the narrative spells it out. They are shown to be lying. This isn’t some weird-ass mind game of “oh no everyone could be lying at any time and no one knows each other’s motives!” because teen wolf is not a damn psychological thriller. It’s a campy action show about teenage werewolves in highschool. The writers do not give a fuck.
characters may deceive each other, but, the show itself does not “flat out lie” to the audience, for fucks sake, that’s not the kind of show they’re running. The writers ret-con, they take lazy shortcuts, the contradict themselves, they generate plot holes right and left, but they still pull it together into a moderately coherent story arc each season. The writing is not tight and it isn’t particularly deep, and if you want to dig into the story and mine it for meaning, you have got to recognize that any inconsistencies you turn up are most likely accidental. Instead of, idk what you think they are, tantalizing glimpses of an underlying grand unifying master-work of worldbuilding? Also, this:
Jeff Davis is very much a make-shit-up-as-you-go-along kind of showrunner. He’s not a master architect like some writers, he’s not motherfucking Shakespeare. Any grand unifying theories about Teen Wolf developed by us, the fans, cannot be attributed to Davis’s plans for canon itself. And if they do coincidentally become part of canon, it’s by way of opportunistic exploitation of a past plot hole in order to ret-con shit, not because of careful advance planning.